Hey sean I use a 30 lb leader about 6-7 feet long with a 5/0 hook 2 dead sardines threw the eyes wirk great yu have to let them chew though. ALso a few came off of cut bait beeliners plugs. Next time you go tell me ill be out there. Oh btw let me get your number ill be down south fishing a 34 hour. Are yall bring yalls own pinfish? We are its much cheaper. GEt some areators and ill show you were a [expletive] load of nice pins are